Thoughts on Edits–Rogue One Version (with Chompers)

For the next couple of weeks I’ll be putting aside graphic design and covers to finish this edit pass of Overseer.

The bones and muscles of the story are laid down, the things that need to happen. Now comes the skin and the connective tissue: description and makings sure that reveals happen in the correct place, that everything happens for a reason.

But there’s also some mental pressure here to add tension.

Some writers really torture their characters. They throw everything in there, much like the end of Rogue One.

Now, don’t get me wrong. I really adored Rogue One, but close to the end I began to get fed up with ‘everything will go wrong’…especially when it began to look silly to me.  (I thought this the first time I saw it in the theater.)

There’s a scene where Jyn is climbing the tower to get to the communication platform. Multiple bad things have already happened, but as she climbs alone, she sees that she has to go through a vent that’s opening and closing regularly.

And my first thought on seeing that vent that could cut her in half? It was the chompers from Galaxy Quest.

Because there was no need for it to be there. Why would any engineer design a vent like that?

In fact, it was so egregious that it made me question everything that went wrong for her after that. You see, all she had to do was get up to the platform and insert the tape to play.

Instead she:

  1. Has to get past the chomper, but then when she inserts the disc, the dish is out of alignment, so she…
  2. Has to go out on a narrow walkway to realign the dish (like an advanced-technology dish wouldn’t do that automatically.) She does so, but…
  3. Is shot at by an Imperial fighter (who is incidentally firing at a person in an Imperial uniform on the most important communication dish at their own installation. Why?) The walkway collapses and…
  4. Jyn has to hang on as it slams against the tower. (Lots of upper body strength required!) Then she…
  5. Has to climb back up the now-damaged walkway without falling to her death. There she….
  6. Is confronted by her nemesis, who blocks her from hitting the send button.

I totally bought #6 because we saw him coming that direction, getting on the elevator and heading up there.

But the first five seemed…like contrived tension to me. Because the first was obviously a chomper scene, (“This episode was badly written!”), it made me doubt the rest.

 

My point in all this being that tension in a story needs to be reasonable. It needs to follow from the story because if it doesn’t, after a while it becomes clear that an author is doing it…just to do it.

We make up all the troubles that befall our protagonists, but we can go too far.

So the next couple of weeks I have to make sure that all the troubles that befall my protagonists actually make sense. That they follow from the plot, and aren’t just chompers.

Care and Feeding of Authors: Why Do They DO This?

Yesterday one of my author friends was lamenting the fact that another friend had decided to quit publishing.

We’re hearing that more and more these days…authors giving up because the current publishing paradigm makes it difficult to make a living.  Now note that above, the author in question didn’t say she’d give up writing. She just wanted to get out of publishing.

Publishing can be a brutal business, and it’s generally not a lucrative one.

Let’s be clear. There are a lot of authors out there making good money. The vast majority, however, are not.

I can’t give you exact stats on that, but…I can give you my numbers.  These are the numbers for an author who had 4 books published by an imprint of one of the world’s largest publishing houses (in USD).

 

2011:  226

2012:  5,445

2013:  6,240

2014:  6,233

2015:  8,503

2016:  4,888

 

Those numbers represent ALL my writing income, from the monies coming in from my publisher, to short story sales, my indie published books, books that I’ve hand-sold at conventions…and in the last two years, money coming in from donors to my Patreon.

What don’t those numbers reflect? Expenses. 

Monies coming in to my publisher would then have a percentage going out to pay my agent. (I have no issue with that…she earned it.) Those books that I hand-sold? I had to purchase them first. Going to the convention? I had to pay for travel and a hotel room and often a convention membership. Indie-pubbed books? Well, I have to purchase covers and pay my copy-editor (again, they earn it), so in actuality, only ONE of my indie published books has made a profit so far. All the others are still a loss.

And then there are promotional expenses: the expenses for my website, for any bookmarks or swag I put out (I love to give away pens). The expenses for mailing out books to first readers and GR winners (in the hundreds of dollars most years.)  Promotion? Most of that costs money of some sort. I pay for BookFunnel and Instafreebie and every little ad I’ve tried…most of which lost money.

En balance, even with a big publishing house behind me, for thousands of hours of work most years I’ve operated at a loss.

The question comes back to, why do we do this?

There are two different issues here: Why do we write? and Why do we publish?

 

Why do we write?

Most writers I know have written their entire life. It’s their passion. Some people sew, some people tailgate at football games, some people form bands….we write.

I still have this: A novel I started in 6th grade.  

I wrote stuff before that. My second-grade teacher wanted to send one of my stories to Highlights magazine (a story for another day). But this is the earliest writing I still have in my possession.

The point being that I’ve always written. If I were to quit publishing, I would still write. For myself. It’s what I do. It’s what most of us do, like breathing. 

So the follow-up question is:

Why do we publish? 

Well, I have to say that for most of us, it’s external validation. We know we write well, now we want others to believe that.

I know very few people who said, “Hey, I’ll get my stuff published because that’s a way to make lots of money!”

Now, there are people who make lots of money. I am not going to deny that.  LOTS of money. Generally, though, if a writer thinks they’ll make lots of money in publishing, they were duped by someone with something to sell. They didn’t do their homework and learn that the vast majority of authors lose money on this gamble.

But why go into this game if you’re not assured you’ll make money?

The primary answer is surely the external validation of having other people enjoy your work.  (There are other reasons, BTW. It could be a control issue, or a desire to gamble years’ work for that possible big payout, or just stubbornness. Motivation often has many factors, some of which we can’t even identify ourselves.)

 

So given that, why would someone just stop?  

I can think of a few reasons:

  1. Personal issues (health, family, dog vet bills) force the writer to invest their time/money elsewhere.
  2. Financial analysis makes the writer decide that the time invested in publishing is simply not paying off.
  3. Writer decides that they’re worn out by engaging with the public. (This can be utterly horrific in some cases.)

There are, without doubt, other reasons to step away.  An author might have a specific goal and find themselves frustrated when not meeting that goal. They may have a falling out with someone specific that sours the whole field for them. They may run into issues of an artificial ceiling that keeps them from success…but the three above catch most of it.

 

What can a reader do?  

Be supportive. Say good things about the writer and to the writer. Leave reviews or ratings. Buy their books if you can, ask your library to carry them if you can’t. Recommend the book to friends. Don’t pick up pirated books (please!)

Readers are not required to do any of this. It’s not their responsibility. They don’t OWE the author that. It’s a gift given to the author. It’s a kindness.

But if you want an author to keep publishing, they need those nudges.  My friend’s friend who’s dropping out? She just didn’t get enough of…something. Not enough author food to keep her going. And that’s kinda sad. 🙁

 

I’ll be breaking down what authors do over the next several weeks, talking about some of the obstacles to publication we’re facing, and some of the traps that might knock us out of the game. So stay tuned, and hopefully I’ll say something that will be helpful….to someone!

And this is, of course, just one author’s view. There are a lot of voices out there talking about these issues. I can’t speak for them all. I can’t speak for the ones who don’t talk about it. All you get from me is my take on the situation…but thanks for reading anyway!

 

 

 

Still thinking about book covers…plus update on writery.

I’m still working on learning how to do covers, and as part of that, I’m creating a series of covers in an attempt to improve my graphic abilities. (Since I’m not willing to pay for a subscription to Photoshop until I’m actually considering doing this for money, I’m cobbling together different programs to get effects I want: Paint, Paint.net, PagePro/LogoPro, and Canva)

Here’s my first one. Still needs a touch of work–I need to fix the type running across her face, add a series title, etc, but this is almost acceptable:


So considering that one in the bag (almost), I started on subject 2, and have a couple of options for this. Olympia Penn and the Haunted Lake perhaps?

Or Olympia Penn and the Blue Door? 

Either way, it has a long way to go!

 

As noted above, a bit of a catch-up on OVERSEER. I had planned (hoped) that this book would be out by August 29, but family issues and made it necessary to put that off a bit. I now am looking at a September 28 release for the last of The Horn trilogy,

The rough draft is more or less done, but I need to do another edit pass, and then get it to my copyeditor/format guy. Since I am running late, I’m hoping this will work with his schedule as well. (Also, my cover artist is really busy, so I’m concerned that getting it all together on time might be a stretch, but I am working as fast as I can.)

To that end, I purchased* an odd little writing tool. I’d seen on a blog that a writer was using a child’s typing tool to speed up his writing…an Alphasmart Neo2. These are designed to students to practice typing, and therefore have eight file spaces where typing practice can be stored and later uploaded to a computer.

When you’re done typing, you simply open a Word file (or any typing file) on your computer, attach the Alpha via USB cable, and hit send. The stored keystrokes begin to fill up the word-processing file, which is rather cool to watch.  (FYI: No special software is required on your computer to use this. Essentially, this is just a keyboard with memory and a few hardwired Applets.)

What’s most useful about this item, though, is that:

a) there’s NO internet access, so there’s no distraction, and

b) it’s not easy to edit (you can edit, it’s just not easy), so you tend to concentrate on forward progress, and

c) it’s smaller and lighter than my laptop, which makes it easier to cart around.

Since it’s powered solely by AA batteries, there’s no worrying about a charge, either. Because they were made to be used by students, they’re nearly indestructible. Plus I can be working on as many as eight different files, which is good for me since I always have multiple stories going.

On my first time using it outside the house, I got about 2.5K new words in 2 hours. I was most impressed, since in that time I usually get 1K with my laptop.

So I’m hoping that my new toy will be useful for me.  (And since I purchased it, I’ve been surprised to hear how many other writers use one of these things…because I’d really never heard of one before a couple of weeks ago.)

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*I bought this used on Amazon, but I see that there are a bunch on ebay as well.

More Obsessing about Fantasy Book Covers

I’m still going back through and rereading posts on Nicola’s blog Thoughts on Fantasy, and working through what works for me for my future covers. (There are some wonderful posts there.)

I find that I share a lot of tastes with her, so going back and looking, I see this post: 5 Features that Make Me Fall in Love with a Book Cover.

Now, without putting in all the pictures she did, here’s the list.

  1. Glowing Magic or Fire
  2. Texture
  3. Patterns or Patterned Borders
  4. Silhouettes
  5. Rich Contrasting Colors

Nothing on that list is particularly unusual, but it’s how they’re applied that makes them interesting.  I will likely drop one of them…I’m not big on the silhouette thing. And for the Dreaming Death series, fire probably wouldn’t apply since it’s winter in the stories. The glowing part came in in the first book, as do the texture, the border, and the rich colors:

However…however….

I frankly don’t know how well this cover actually served this novel. Don’t get me wrong, this is a gorgeous cover and I really love it, however…I know the book struggled to sell. (The cover was done in glossy, and I think it would look far better in matte.) But I also think people might think this is a YA book.

This is where it gets awkward.

I’m writing a series that is not YA, but one of the POV characters is 17.  It’s not YA.  It might be better to call it NA (New Adult), because POV2 is 23. (POV3 is 44, which is far too ancient for a YA reader to read about, right?)

So, in contemplating what I want for the next 3 books, I’m working on a list.

  1. Striking Titles that would work with Dreaming Death
  2. A bolder, less busy cover.

There are three titles to come.

  1. The first book is mostly about how Shironne and Mikael are exploring the binding between them. I’ve been toying with either Bound in Dreams or In Dreaming Bound (hat tip to Michelle Muenzler).
  2. Book 2 is about Mikael going back and, with Shironne’s help, solving the ten years past murder of his father. So potential titles need to cover that it’s a combination of memory and dreaming, so either In Dreams Remembered or Recalled in Dreams. Neither is particularly awesome.
  3. Book 3 is about Mikael and Shironne being dragged back to Lee Province, and getting separated, so I was considering In Dreaming Found or Hunted in Dreams. Again, I’m not wild about these.

 

FWIW, the “____________ in Dreams” trio sounds a bit like Urban Fantasy titles to me, which might give the reader a wrong impression. In Dreaming Found sounds weird to me as well. Meh.

I’m about at the point of crowdsourcing these titles, in hopes that someone can come up with something better.

And what about the covers? What do I want the covers to show?

Here’s the list I’ve come up with:

  1. Snow
  2. An isolated image–just one. Not the buildings AND the hands.
  3. Easier to read script…something that looks ‘exotic’, but larger and bolder.
  4. Lighter colors
  5. Maybe a fancy design or border, but I want most of the noise to come from snow

Will my artist be able to do all these things AND make me happy? Well, that remains to be seen.

 

So if you have better titles than:

1. In Dreaming Bound / In Dreams Remembered / In Dreaming Found

or

2. Bound in Dreams / Recalled in Dreams / Hunted in Dreams

Let me know.  ;o)

 

 

Fantasy Cover Art: Again with the Cliches…

A rather amusing post on this subject was recommended to me this week, (seeing that I’m thinking hard about covers). The blogger, in this case the clever Nicola Alter, sat down and put together all the well-known cliches that should appear in the Next Great Fantasy Book Cover….and I wasn’t sure whether to laugh or cry on seeing the final product:

Click on the photo or below to read the article and see her process.

How to Make a Clichéd High Fantasy Cover

 

 

I am still pursuing my quest to learn how to make covers and graphics, and so I’ve started up a sample cover.  Not the above, but…it does have some similarities:

Part 1: The image

(Image via Deposit Photos)

My next step was to edit the photo some, toning down her collarbones, getting rid of her hair clip, and cleaning up her dress. I used Paint.net (with a little help from Paint) to do all that. I toyed with some options (like subbing in a closed-front version of the dress from another photo), but ended up creating a fichu to make her less…exposed.)

Ta-Da!  Now on to the next big step!

 

Part 2: The Words

In order to make an actual book cover, I had to have a title, an author, and some sort of fantasy element.

  1. Emily Wilde and the Greenleaf School of Magic
  2. Cordelia Ellsmere
  3. letters flying around the book.

I gave myself 1 hour to do this, on the same photo editing software…that I’ve never used for text before. This was a BIG MISTAKE.

I ended up with this monstrosity:

Unfortunately, this software turns out to be one where you can’t go back and alter the text once you’ve put it down. That means that I could either delete it all, or stick it out.  In this case, I decided to stick it out, but…it’s pretty bad.

So today’s hour will be spent redoing this whole thing in a layout software rather than an image editing software.

(Image Editor is good for the change between version 1 and 2, but lousy for what I needed for version 3.)

 

Live and learn.

 

Will Emily ever get the book cover she deserves?

Stay tuned next week to see what Layout Software can do for poor Emily!

SpecFic Book Covers: Mostly Words. Is this the New Thing?

I’ve been looking at book covers a LOT lately, and I have thoughts. So many thoughts.

And one of them is this: A lot of book covers are mostly title now.

Not all. A percentage, of course. But in this post, I’ll include a bunch that I found solely in looking at my ‘Also Boughts’ on Amazon.  I didn’t really go hunting for these…they were just there.

Now the most extreme example I ran across was this: 

(All of these covers today came VIA Amazon.)

The above book (YA SF) takes this to an extreme, but it does seem to be out there a lot.  Let me stick in another image:

Ah, there we are.  Now all of these (as noted above) came out of my also boughts, so these are covers that people who’ve purchased books somewhat similar to mine have bought. While most of them have some sort of fantastic elements (crowns, skulls, swords), these covers are really about the titles.

(FWIW, I didn’t check these to be sure, but I think most of them are from major publishers. Also, some are YA, some not.)

So I toyed very briefly with coming up with a cover that’s words: 

 

Meh. For a fast job, I shouldn’t expect much. (That took me about fifteen minutes to assemble online, using elements I’d previous uploaded. If I were serious about it, I would agonize over the elements and fonts for days.)

But it does make me wonder whether this is a tack I should pursue. It’s a decent enough idea, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if a lot of book covers head this direction (instead of the main character cover).

We shall see, I suppose…

 

 

Fantasy Book Cover Design: What’s Going On???

Last week I started talking about how fantasy book covers seem to be changing. Not all of them, but a certain percentage have been, and that’s most notably the biggest sellers.

Have you seen the new Harry Potter Covers?

This image comes from Pottermore: Click on it to read about Olly Moss’ new covers!

Yes, they’re clearly still fantasy, but…not the wild and colorful covers of our youth.  (Okay, early middle age, not youth.) Each still has a clear fantasy element, but they’re not what we’re used to. They’re different.

How about this: the UK covers of GOT

 

This photo is via Fantasy Faction, who have a great article about the evolution of the GOT covers from 2014. Click on the picture to read it!

The point being, these are not your old 1980s fantasy novel covers, done by an illustrator with the main character in some action pose on the front. I suspect these covers cost a lot less money to produce, and took far less time. (I think the article quotes 4 months for the whole set.)

But these writers are big enough names that readers don’t need to be ‘told’ it’s fantasy.

So I’m putting this down as…

POSSIBLE REASON NUMBER 1:

Big Name Authors don’t need the traditional covers

Not only do their readers know their names already, but the non-traditional cover also gives the books a chance to attract a reader who might be leery about being caught with a book with a Frank Frazetta* cover on it. (Yes, that reader is out there.)

So could there be any other reason?

Well, another possibility cropped up immediately after last week’s post.  Someone on another forum looked at my splash of covers, and commented that one of them looked like an indie cover.

…AN INDIE COVER.  ::delicate shudder::

Interestingly, it was a cover from one of the Big Five? Big Four? publishers on what I suspect is an excellent book. (I’ve read this author’s work, which never fails to hit it out of the park.)

But the publisher had taken three photo images and worked them together into a cover, and that particular method has been used so much by indie publishers (of which I’m one, I’ll remind you), that there’s a certain look that one associates with indie covers. I knew exactly what that person meant. And…I agreed with them a little bit.

Publishers have been cutting corners lately. It’s an expensive world out there, and they’ve been experimenting with using stock photos just like the little guys. It’s cheaper.

What’s the drawback? Well, it could pass for an indie cover, and that carries the stigma of looking ‘less professional.’ But using stock photos also has a danger:

Again, this one’s via Fantasy Faction “Books Do Not Sell without Covers” from earlier this year. Click on the pick to read the AWESOME article.

Here’s another humorous link, via a romance writer whose publisher used a stock photo…that was used by everyone else, too. 

The truth is, there’s a limited number of stock photos and models out there, and getting the right photo is pretty tough. Sometimes it turns out to be the right photo for everyone else as well.  ARGH!

So publishers are struggling to find was to both A) Make covers less expensive and B) Differentiate them from Indie Covers.

In my eye, that would mean getting away from stock photos if at all possible.

 

POSSIBLE REASON NUMBER 2:

Differentiating the covers from Indie Covers

You want to look different.  

A couple of recent genre covers that I find particularly smashing:

Now, these are absolutely amazing books, but the covers don’t quite have the traditional ‘fantasy/scifi’ look either. (A friend of mine felt that the coloration of the Jemisin cover made it fantasy, while another said it was the font. I am willing to accept either as accurate since I don’t know.)

I’m still working my way through this, and looking at forthcoming covers at a lot of publishers has shown me that this is only a small part of what’s out there. (Angry Robot, for example, has a bunch of awesome covers coming out that don’t fall under this umbrella.) So I’ll keep looking and see whether this is an ongoing trend…or a flash in the pan.

 

Added bit:

Here are a couple more articles that I’m still parsing my way through:

23 Science Fiction and Fantasy Book Covers That are Out of this World

Judging a Book by It’s Cover

*Don’t get me wrong. Frank Frazetta did some amazing covers, but they were a bit…over the top.

 

 

Fantasy Cover Art: Is it Changing?

Over on one of the forums I’m on, a few of us were discussing (at my instigation) whether or not fantasy/sci-fi cover art is changing.

Here’s one of the things that makes this seem the case for me:  these are the covers of the books for Kirkus Reviews’ “Best Bets for Fascinating Fantasy SciFi Horror reads in July.” 

No space ship, no alien, no elves or swords, no men in hoods or glowy sparkles. These are alternate history, future dystopia, superpowers…and yet nothing about these covers says that. These covers look pretty…well, mainstream. Literary.

What was more interesting? These are the covers from the same list that Kirkus DIDN’T SHOW.

Tentacles? Alien life forms? Fantasy worlds? Space city?

Why were these the covers left out?

Frankly, I don’t know the answer, but I thought it was a very interesting thing to have a page recommending genre fiction…with covers that did not really look like ‘genre fiction.’

(Now, for full disclosure, I should say that a) there is one more novel cover (at the top), but it also doesn’t look ‘genre’. b) there is a horror short story collection at the bottom, which DOES look like a horror cover. and c) Sand has more than one cover, and the other one I’ve seen looks slightly less genre, but still fairly dystopia.)

The whole reason that I’m discussing this at all because I’m considering what I want for my next three book covers, and I want to go to my artist with some firm ideas.  These books will be sequels to Dreaming Death, and maybe instead of a clearly ‘fantasy’ cover:

Maybe I should go with something more mainstream:

I’m not really serious with these…I just threw them together using Canva templates…but is there something here?

I can put in some glowy magic (like the first), but I have to admit, I actually like the clean ‘literary’ covers a bit better. They’re not as fussy. They’re simple.

The question then becomes, how do readers find them? How would using covers like this affect my ‘brand’?  Will they know it’s a fantasy-ish novel?

In fact, how does that work for the five authors at the top? Can one look at the cover of the new Carrie Vaughn novel and know that it’s a dystopian mystery?

I suspect I’ll be rattling on about this for  a while, a debate that I’m having mainly with myself.  But I have some theories:

Possible influences for this:

  1. Indie books (and thus their covers) are becoming more prevalent.*
  2. Customers are relying more on category and ‘also boughts’ to tell them what to look at. (Not the same as browsing at a book store.)
  3. Publishers are trying to reach out to non-fantasy readers by having more ‘mainstream’ covers.

So over the next few Wednesdays, I’ll be looking at the trends of cover art in F&SF. If you know of a pertinent (RECENT) article, I’d love it if you would leave me a link. I’m curious to see what people are saying out there.

 

*I’ll talk about why that matters at all, later.

July: Upcoming Story, and Free Story

While I’m working on Overseer, the final book in The Horn trilogy, I’m also working on several other things, so I thought I’d give a rundown very quickly on what’s going on:

  1. The Horn trilogy is almost finished, and I’m aiming for a release in August.
  2. I am still trying to update The King’s Daughter at least twice a month.
  3. My Patreon story set in the Golden City setting, The Truth Undiscovered, is being updated once a month. This is a story about the initial case handled by Inspectors Gaspar and Anjos, the Lady, and Miss Vladimirova. If you’re interested in following along, you can join my Patreon group for as little as $1 a month!
  4. I am working to make all my old short stories available as ebooks. To that end, I’m trying to publish one per month (except August, since I have Overseer coming out.)  Next month I’ll be putting out The Stains of the Past.(This is only a tentative cover). This was my very first published story (2006!) and it ties into The King’s Daughter. Although this story takes place a few years later, it involves some of the same characters.
  5.  In that vein, Fleurs du Mal is now FREE at most etailers….except Amazon.  I have not been successful in getting Amazon to lower the price to free, but I’ll keep trying!  Click on the picture to see a list of retailers:

6. And if that’s not enough to keep me busy, I’m also putting together a plan for the next three Dreaming Death stories, with Shironne and Mikael returning. The first of those, tentatively called “Bound in Dreams” should be out late this year.   I will have to have titles and cover ideas worked out for all three before I hit up my cover artist, Kate Marshall…

So I’m really really busy these days, and hope that I can get everything out on time!!!

 

Harry Potter, 6 years on…

This week I’ve been re-watching all the Harry Potter movies. I hadn’t watched them in a while, and since I had some time, I decided to do all 8.

Most notably, the films hold up pretty well. Despite The Sorcerer’s Stone (’01) approaching it’s second decade, it doesn’t look dated. The young stars seemed a bit ill-formed, but they were pretty young….and became more sophisticated as they went along.

This time around–possibly because of the rosy glow of time passing–some of the things that bothered me in the past weren’t as bad.  

I started having problems reading the books at around Book 5, (Order of the Phoenix).  Harry annoyed me to death with his constant whining about how bad his life was, and that colored the next two books for me.  I was SO done with Harry.

(Sorry, in OotP, Harry had just turned 16, and it was hard for me to relate to a kid being so whiny at that age.   A)I taught HS, and most kids that age are past the whiny stage, and B)I was a sophomore in college at 16, so I wasn’t -in- HS at that age, and therefore struggle to relate to that whole environment anyway. And yes, I know Harry had worse-than-average teenage issues, but…)

Anyhow, one perq of watching the movies instead or rereading the books is that you perceive less of the whiny-ness. The first time I saw that movie, I had recently read the book, so the book experience tainted the movie. This time, I actually liked OotP much more.

The same lack of “recently-read-the-book” taint also made the last three movies better for me, as did being able to watch them in quick succession. In those two books, my main beef was the extraneous subplots and gazillion unnecessary characters…many of which the movies skipped over.

Therefore, this time around it was a much better viewing experience.  I have a greater admiration for JKR as a story teller at this distance, and hope to watch these again in another 6 years.